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Centennial Charmed is a culminating episode in many respects. The role of Cole comes to an end. He will be remembered occasionally, but he will no longer pose a threat or play a role in the evolution of the Charmed Ones (until Seven Year Witch fifty episodes later). Paige as a second string witch always comes to an end as she comes to the rescue of her sisters in the alternate universe. In this universe and in the real universe, Paige really does come into her own as a sister. She no longer is second fiddle to the Phoebe and Piper. And finally, the twisted and often painful relationship between Cole and Phoebe comes to an end. Phoebe certainly achieves closure. In Seven Year Witch we will learn that for Cole, too, the possibility of achieving closure is made possible by the events in Centennial Charmed.
In light of the events in Centennial Charmed, it seems necessary to examine once again the relationship between Cole and Phoebe. Though Phoebe has professed many times her love for Cole and Cole has repeatedly expressed his desire to be with Phoebe, there seems to be a paradox at the heart of the relationship between Cole and Phoebe. In Centennial Charmed, when Cole expresses his desire to remake the world in order to win back Phoebe he confesses to Avatar Alpha that he and Phoebe were at there best when he was Belthazor. Yet, a human Cole, stripped of his demonic powers, would seem to offer the best prospects for having a satisfying relationship with Phoebe, a Phoebe who could openly practice magic in front of the love of her life (something she could not do with Jason) and a Phoebe could count on the love of her life understanding that her Wiccan duties sometime overwhelmed her obligations as a wife. So, why does Cole choose to re-make the world back to a time when he is not fully human and could potentially remain a threat to the sisters?
One might argue that it was Paige who always presented a threat to Cole. Indeed, at the conclusion of the Fifth Halliwell, an openly hostile Phoebe confronts Paige on this very point. Paige was driven mad by the power brokers' stored power and attacked Cole because of a pre-existing hatred toward Cole. As Phoebe reasoned, a power broker abused Karen was eminently hostile towards Elise because of already existing feelings of hatred between the advice columnist and her boss. Though Paige assures Phoebe that she doesn't hate Cole, but merely distrusts him, Phoebe is not persuaded. And, neither - we presume - would Cole.
Suppose Paige is correct, however. Suppose she doesn't really hate Cole. True, she does needle him. But is that really hatred? In Charmed and Dangerous, Paige expresses regret that Cole was no longer a demon. The sisters could have used his demonic side to banish the Hollow back into the box. As a sarcastic comment, it's a bit over the top. And, it really isn't fair to Cole who is trying hard to make it as a human.
But, Paige is on to something, isn't she? She has already seen how Cole made a mess of his half-day try-out at South Bay Social Services. Somehow she knows deep inside that Cole, as a human, will forever be wrestling with demons. The only difference is that now he no longer has the power to effectively give vent to his demonic passions. How long would it take before a human Cole, tempted by the demonic underworld, would give in to his desire to effectively give meaning to the rage he sometimes feels within? The fact that this rage might be employed against evil-doers is beside the point. Paige fears that the desire to employ violence, even if used for good ends, will in fact become overwhelming. That's one key element in her deep distrust for Cole.
For Cole, although he surely should recognize that his life as a human, free of his demonic past, offers the best chance for a meaningful, loving relationship with Phoebe, he opts for life as Belthazor when remaking the world. For him, he needs to have demonic powers, albeit ones which his human half can control and employ only for good aims, in order to attain equality in his relationship to Phoebe. As a human without any powers, Cole will always feel inferior to Phoebe. He knows that he will always be unable to protect Phoebe when threatened by demonic forces. He must understand that unless he applies himself in the real world and starts at the bottom he will never achieve the personal success in the real world that will allow him to be satisfied with his new, demon free, status. In short, it is his own internalized feelings of inadequacy as a human that will doom his relationship with Phoebe. That's why he opted to recreate the world ante Paige. It was not because of his hatred for Paige, despite his constant stream of sarcasm in this respect. It is because of his own feelings of inadequacy that make him want to recreate a world where the Source still exists - and remains a threat to the surviving sisters - and where the Charmed Ones do not exist (even if that means he must kill Paige before the power of three can be reestablished in order to come back into the good graces of the Source (who nevertheless will remain deeply distrustful of Cole and will dispatch the Seer to keep an eye on him).
I have a few issues with this episode. The first being the discontinuity of Cole as an Avatar. He changes time as an Avatar. Avatars are outside of time as Alpha says when he talks to Cole outside the manor. The explaination that Cole took over the life that realities Cole would have had is quite ridiculous. Why would that be the case. As the spell caster he is outside of the effects of the spell. As an Avatar he is outside the effects of the spell. Avatars are the next best thing to invincible. Cole should still have been an Avatar. Grrrr. Its a pet peeve with this episode.
As for Paige hating Cole, I think it was when she realised just how high level a demon he was. When she thought he was just a low level demon she wasn't bothered by him (see Enter the Demon). In Black as Cole it all comes home to her. Can anyone really hate evil? I would think of it as more being totally opposed to him- which isn't the same as hate.
Doesn't Cole say somewhere that his relationship with Phoebe deteriorated after Paige came along? I'm pretty sure he does actually blame her. I don't Cole hated Paige- he just associated his worsening relationship with Phoebe on Paiges appearance.
Now, what I want to know is what in the story justifies Phoebe's attitude to Cole. He asks her, "what happened to us," the best she can come up with is "i guess it just wasn't meant to be." What a cop out. That isn't enough of an explanation for an epic love to rival Piper and Leo's. There is never a real explanation for why Phoebe falls out of love with Cole, least of all in this episode.
Post by vandergraafk on Feb 21, 2007 19:11:15 GMT -5
I will have to consider your point about the Avatar in Cole at length perhaps later. For now, led me suggest the following. Certainly, laiste, you are correct when you note that Avatar Alpha remains unaffected by the change in time. However, I believe Cole cast a spell such that he relinquished his transformation into an Avatar when he sought to reverse time. Thus, he wanted to be Belthazor, for, as he incorrectly reasoned, that was when he and Phoebe were happiest.
Of course, Cole's reasoning was flawed. Phoebe was happiest when Cole was human. Paradoxically, Cole was not happiest when he was human. He felt inadequate. He was happiest when he was in complete control of Belthazor and certain that he could defend himself and Phoebe by resorting to Belthazor's powers when needed.
Second, it was not Paige's presence that upset his relationship with Phoebe. It was the fact that his past had caught up with him in Black as Cole. As you correctly note, Paige wised up to how demonic Belthazor had been. Cole, on the other hand, had to release Belthazor to protect the Charmed Ones against Sykes. The jig was up as soon as the Belthazor vanquishing potion was thrown. From that point on, Cole lost the ability to protect both himself and Phoebe from forces demonic. His happiness devolved into fits of inadequacy. Only when he regained powers as a result of the Source did he regain composure.
Post by vandergraafk on Dec 19, 2007 15:40:38 GMT -5
A long, long time ago, from the Charmed Cafe, came a dismissal of Centennial Charmed. Reference was even made to a devastating "review" in TV without Pity. Now, ljones, writing in the Charmed Cafe, summarizes her negative appraisal of Centennial Charmed thusly:
"And "Centennial Charmed", as transcripts go, was a complete travesty to me. They got Paige's birth year wrong. They never explained how Cole's status as a fugutive had changed following Prue's death. And exactly how did Paige's death was supposed to allow Cole's marriage to Phoebe change? Now that I think about it, the whole storyline about Cole's departure was complete crap to me."
Well, that led vandergraafk to comment as follows:
"Ljones, please don't let the obvious oversight - an incorrect date of Paige's birth - destroy an otherwise engaging Charmed episode. The questions you pose surely do need to be asked. Much as you might wish, they did not need to be answered in that episode. Any faithful fan of Charmed could have answered all of them to construct a credible sequence of events.
Let's return to All Hell Breaks Loose. Prue dies as we know. But, how do Cole and Phoebe escape vanquish. Remember: the Source wants Phoebe killed as well. Cole and Phoebe indeed do try to escape. The Source is aware of the attempt, but new information from the Oracle has suggested that there might be another sister. As Shax has been exposed too much, the Source dragoons Cole and demands that he kill this new sister: Paige. It is the price that Cole will pay to save Phoebe. Forced with choosing between Paige and Phoebe, Cole does the Source's bidding and Paige is killed before the Power of Three can be reconstituted.
Phoebe stays with Cole in the manor. Piper has abandoned P3 and is devoured by fury in her attempt to avenge Prue's death by attempting to ferret out Shax, the demon responsible for Prue's death. Not completely trusting in Cole, the Source sends the Seer to watch over Cole, now that he has been "entrusted" with running the Source's affairs above ground. Surrounded by suspicious demons, Phoebe does not find comfort in being with Cole. She rationalizes her decision to stay in the manner as the best means of protecting Piper. However, her disillusion with Cole grows as she comes to realize that the island of tranquility (the manor) in the turbulent sea of fighting - Piper vs. every Tom, thingy and Demon - is not a bit of luck. Rather, she realizes that Cole has sold his soul (again) in order to remain with Phoebe. As a result, she grows distant and pushes Cole away. He finds solace in the lady demons who frequent the manor. Eventually, she too meets her own needs by taking on lovers of her own.
Now, it is true that none of this was really developed in Centennial Charmed. A two-part send-off might have been preferable. Let's see: part two of CC or Lucky Charmed? Okay, I'd rather see a part two of Centennial Charmed - or rather, a part one, since everything I mention antedates Centennial Charmed.
Why wasn't this done? Hmmm! It might have brought up old wounds. That is, it might have required use of footage with Shannen. I doubt that was the problem, though. That is, it might have really angered former fans of the show (again). Maybe that was a consideration. Maybe it never dawned on BK that a bit more depth was required. Whatever: I don't share your view that CC is a train-wreck of an episode. In true Charmed fashion, it tells most of a story and gives each fan the opportunity to fill in all of the details.
Now, we can wax on about the incorrect date of birth. And, I could equally drone on about the logical implausibility of Witchstock. Just because there are important continuity issues doesn't mean that I should burn the witch without a public flogging first. Witchstock doesn't work on a lot of levels. Centennial Charmed does. The only thing they share is a disregard for certain factual details in Charmedverse."
As always, ljones was dismissive of this comment as well. Without demonstrating that she had read anything beyond the first line, she noted:
"Okay, I find this is a little insulting. I had made it perfectly clear that I DISLIKED "Centennial Charmed" for a number of other reasons, aside from the inaccuracy of Paige's birth year. Why did you focus on this one thing. Did you read my earlier post?
By the way, I'm happy for you that you liked the episode. I simply thought it was crap. Period."
Pithy, but widely inaccurate, as I spent more of my time analysizing the alleged weaknesses of Centennial Charmed. To wit, I replied:
"Oh, I read your post! Now, you might wish to respond in kind. Yes, I am well aware that you dismiss the episode for a variety of reasons. In that post, you elucidated some for the very first time. I remember an exchange we had about a year and a half ago when you referred to some place TVwithoutpity as the definitive dismissal of Centennial Charmed. Well, I disagreed then since there was nary a trace of analysis in that piece of "journalistic" puff.
In your latest dismissal of Centennial Charmed, you at least got more specific. And, I answered your concerns. Dismiss them if you will. However, the alleged "inconsistencies" that you point to - and Keith Topping alludes to as well - dwelve on superficialities. If you examine the episode, as I have, some of your "analysis" does not bear the weight. You may not like my "missing Centennial Charmed Pre-quel", but it does address the putative concerns about why the Seer is present, why Phoebe and Cole's "romance" has faded into an orgy of one-night stands.
I can defend my "extrapolation" backwards since there are various hints in the episode to suggest that these might have happened in this alternative universe. Please don't insult me by "labelling" them as fan fiction. I know you haven't done that, but there are other members of the canon wielding corps who just might do that.
Now, my point in focusing on the detail is to advise those of us who nit pick to not just simply throw out the baby with the bathwater. I agree. I nit pick with respect to the incorrect grave marker. I also nit pick with respect to the A/C thermostadt that magically appears in the manor when Troxa is dispatched. Yet, it disappears again at the end of the Season 5 (Oh My Goddess!). Should I toss out an otherwse great episode of season 3 because of the A/C thermostadt? Apparently, neither you nor I would. Yet, I suspect there are some who might.
Let's be honest. You reject Centennial Charmed not for the putative reasons given, but simply because Cole was axed out of the series without the Charmed Ones ever being held accountable. That's really what it's all about. The rest is just sloppy window dressing!"
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